Ban big money bill

We have several important outcomes that we took to the NDP government to include in the campaign finance reform bill:

  1. Ban on corporate and union donations;
  2. Ensure BC has among the lowest individual contribution limits in the country;
  3. Reduce overall election spending by political parties;
  4. Eliminate loopholes for 3rd-party funding to avoid US-style PACs (political action committees);
  5. Introduce this legislation immediately as one of the first bills tabled in the legislature.

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Vast Improvement to Campaign Finance

If adopted this Bill will be a huge improvement to BC's campaign finance regulations. I was surprised at the inclusion of interim taxpayer funded campaign funds. I suppose the poor BC Liberals and the NDP will need some time to adjust their fundraising tactics. This could be a blessing for the Greens, but we should not let up on our typical individual donor fundraising efforts. This could be a great way to combine our usual individual donor funds with the tax payor funds to build the largest campaign fund in Green history. We also need to focus on a public information campaign. Perhaps a private education event for the media first. If the media doesn't understand (and they don't seem to) then they won't explain it to the public accurately. We need to let the public know that the Greens are responsible for bringing this bill to fruition. The public misinformation of the CASA, is terrible. With every bill tabled, we should take the opportunity to explain our role.

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Thank you for your encouragement Kim!  We are striving to restore BC resident's trust in government. We greatly appreciate your feedback and we will continue working towards making democracy work for the people of BC!

Ban Big Money

$1200 is a bit high. $1000 $2.50 subsidy is a bit rich and bad optics as we stand to benefit the most. $1.25 is more reasonable. This was the federal subsidy before it was eliminated.

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Hello Rick, 

Thank you for your feedback. We agree $100 per individual a year is a more accessible limit, however, during negotiation with the NDP government, $1200 per individual a year was the compromise made between the two parties. 

Here is more on the consultation process from an article in the Globe and Mail: https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/horgans-fundraising-policy-reversal-tied-to-greens-insiders-say/article36338684/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

Additionally, the "per-vote allowance" will start at $2.50, but will decrease every year for 4 years before being eliminated. 

mere workers are responsible for industrial pollution?????

What is the matter with you? You're blaming the wrong people--workers have no control over their workplaces.

Happy :)

I'm pleased that a huge step in favour of a healthy democracy has been taken by banning 'big money' and corporate control over BC politics. Next on the agenda??? ...ensuring Riverview is re-opened as a publicly owned Centre of Excellence for Mental Wellness, set within a FULLY PROTECTED green-space and world-class Arboretum. Thank you Greens :)

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We greatly appreciate your support Nancy! Thank you :) 

Ban Big Money

Actually, I am delighted with the ban. However, rather than giving the unthinking naysayers anything to grouse about, why can't we do some kind of a reduction via taxes IF you vote. Kills two birds in one stroke...Stops the naysayers and may building voter participation. It can't be that difficult to do. and it would stop that reputation that the NDP has of being spendy. Transitions taxes are too easy to maintain, and too easy to oppose.

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Thank you for your feedback Ann!

The taxpayer subsidy is not needed

I know why the NDP wants it - that party has an expensive infrastructure to support. But it's not needed. The Green Party ran the last election (and all the others) with volunteers, voters who cared about the party. If the NDP can't do the same, too bad.

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Hello Ian,

We appreciate your feedback. I also wondered when I first heard about the allowance, why parties can’t just quit cold turkey. After all - it worked for the BC Greens! It turns out, that approach could actually be really dangerous for our democracy. Other parties rely so heavily on big money that this bill takes away half their income. Any business owner will tell you that losing half your revenue all at once will pretty much put you out of business.

So the way I see it, the per-vote allowance gives all parties a chance to get rid of corporate donations right away, while continuing the essential work they do for democracy in BC - talking to voters, supporting MLAs and developing policy ideas. That’s one of the reasons our BC Green MLAs support the government’s bill.  The most important thing is to get big money out of politics as soon as possible.

Ban should be on all potential PAC type groups

Donations from any groups, not only corporate and unions but also churches, associations, and organizations. On the other hand, individual donations should be promoted and $1,200 is too low for a yearly donation, I would think that $2,500 is more reasonable. In the case of donation to the Greens, you should modernize payment methods to include Paypal and other means.

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Thank you for your feedback David! 

The Liberals will eat this up

It is crucial that the taxpayer subsidies to parties be dropped. Otherwise the NDP and Greens will pay for this in the next election.

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Hello Jacob, 

Thank you for your note. I understand your concern, I wasn’t sure about the “per-vote allowance” at first either.

Now I’m seeing it as a temporary measure to assist parties who are trying to quit using corporate donations. Our provincial politics became so dependent on big money that government can’t even rip it away without causing serious damage to our democracy. Other parties rely so heavily on big money that this bill takes away half their income. Any business owner will tell you that losing half your revenue all at once will pretty much put you out of business.The government can’t let that happen to our major political parties. Today’s political system in BC relies heavily on parties to engage voters, support MLAs and build election platforms to shape public policy. We may not always agree with other parties but a healthy democracy needs a diversity of voices. No single party has all the answers.

So the way I see it, the per-vote allowance gives all parties a chance to get rid of corporate donations right away, while continuing the essential work they do for democracy in BC - talking to voters, supporting MLAs and developing policy ideas. That’s one of the reasons our BC Green MLAs support the government’s bill.  The most important thing is to get big money out of politics as soon as possible. If that means helping the other parties adjust, I’m all for it. 

Hope this helps! 

 

 

 

 

A start, but still big loopholes

After hearing an analysis on CBC Radio, I agree that the donation limit is still inaccessible for many and therefore skewed to the wealthy. As well, the speaker believed that donations can still be funneled by corporations or unions to their members and would be indistinguishable from personal donations. Quebec has a model with a low donation limit where donations are received and recorded by Elections Quebec to prevent corruption from simply going deeper underground.

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Hello Jill, 

 

Thank you for your feedback. We agree $100 per individual a year is a more accessible limit, however, during negotiation with the NDP government, $1200 per individual a year was the compromise made between the two parties. 

 

Here is more on the consultation process from an article in the Globe and Mail: https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/horgans-fundraising-policy-reversal-tied-to-greens-insiders-say/article36338684/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

I'm very happy with this bill

It's long overdue and I'm ecstatic that the greens and NDP could reach an agreement and finally take power from the criminal Liberals we had running the province. This will make for less corruption in every party to run the province. I want a government run for the people, not the money.

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Thank you Derek! We appreciate your feedback and I agree! A government for the people, not the money. 

Great! Now can we (truly) address election spending at the local government level?

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Thank you for your feedback Barry! Your support is greatly appreciated. We absolutely agree that these same rules need to be applied to local level elections. The NDP government has said that they will be introducing separate but similar legislation for this purpose. We're looking forward to seeing that bill when it is introduced in the Legislature. We expect it to come sooner than later and make next year's local government elections the first without the influence of special interests!

Smart move towards healthier politics

Despite the griping in the media, this is an important and historic move for BC. Yes it is seems lousy for public dollars to have to be used for campaigns, but it gets reduced over time and helps to eliminate the distorting factors of unchecked private contributions. Besides if we want a fair playing field we can't have unchecked contributions. In my mind, what is a greater use of quite a small amount of public dollars than helping to ensure fairer campaigns.

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Thank you for your feedback Scott! I agree that when it comes down to choice, i'd rather have people fund parties through their votes than allow vested interests to call the shots .. the most important thing is to get rid of corporate and union donations now!

The new Ban-Big-Money Bill is better than expected!

In addition to the ban-items, I particularly like the item the NDP credited as being "Green influence" : a five-year transition for public subsidies to BC political parties - $2.50 per vote received in most recent election (sliding down to $1.50 in the 2022 review year). This not only alleviates the transition out of the Big Money era, it also greatly levels the playing field. Seeing a subsidy reflect popular vote, is precisely what we all hope to see in actual voting with Pro-Rep. What the BC Greens can't do with 17% of party funding!!

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Thank you for your feedback and support Wayne. Getting big money out of politics is a huge step for democracy in BC!

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